Caring and being cared for are really important for human flourishing. But caring has its risks too. Caring about one person too much can cause you to care about others too little. Or you can care about the wrong things altogether. Figuring out who and what to care about and to what degree can be a tricky thing.
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We sometimes think of the domains of ethics and morality as divorced from feeling and emotion. You keep your promises because it maximizes good. But what if care were thought of as the bedrock of morality? While we know that more care work is performed by women, would a care-based approach to ethics be feminist, or merely feminine? What would it look like for us to build our institutions around the goal of promoting care? Debra and Ken take care to welcome Joan Tronto from the University of Minnesota, author of Who Cares?: How to Reshape a Democratic Politics.
Ken and Debra begin the show by discussing care and what it means in regard to our obligations to others. Ken holds that it is perfectly fine for a parent to care more for his own children than he does for others; Debra, on the other hand, maintains that justice requires us to be impartial and prepared to juggle everyone’s best interests. The philosophers pivot to the difference between caring and care work, with Debra reminding us that domestic workers, often women of color, are exploited and undervalued in today’s market economy.
Joan Tronto, professor of political science at the University of Minnesota and author of Who Cares? How to Reshape a Democratic Politics, joins the show. She adds her perspective to what has already been discussed, offering that a policy-mandated 20-hour work week and a requirement for all American citizens to care for others, similar to a national service requirement, would help reshape and improve American democracy. She argues that students ought to be taught to care for others just as they are taught to develop a good work ethic in school. Ken and Debra probe Joan more on this, including on what she believes the source of care work and caring in the home disproportionately falling to women is.
After a short break, the philosophers and Joan respond to callers’ questions. One caller points out that care work is thought about differently in other countries, including in Cuba. There, even physicians are supported and encouraged to return to and help their disadvantaged communities. She wonders if the Cuban social system accounts for this. Ken adds onto this question, asking Joan why it seems that the devaluation of care work is especially prevalent in the U.S. Joan discusses Americans’ “winner vs. loser” mentality in response to Ken’s question, pointing out that we often forget that we share common goals and interests with other Americans.
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