Your Question: Integrate or Assimilate?

20 March 2019

In response to our recent show "Immigration and Multiculturalism" with guest Prof. Sarah Song, listener Judy asked:

First, I would like to have known what was meant by Dr. Song's comment that immigrants are obligated to integrate. What does integration mean, and how is that contrasted to assimilation?

Second, I heard her say that immigrants' opinions have nothing to do with culture. What?? Did I hear wrong? If not, I don't get it because such opinions have everything to do with culture.

Now, she said that something to the effect that immigrants deserve full participation in America, and that this entails the right to change the culture. This is precisely where things become fraught. Again, what is "integration"? How much integration do we have a right to expect? What kinds of changes become intolerable?

I struggle with this question, and I'm wondering how other people see it?

Sarah was kind enough to write a response:

I distinguish assimilation from integration. Assimilation is associated with the ideal of the melting pot in which immigrants are expected to give up their distinctive collective identities and cultural practices in favor of adopting the identities and practices associated with the dominant culture. By contrast, integration is an ideal that asks immigrants to adopt the basic values and principles of the societies they've migrated to (such as the values of equality and respect for the rule of law), but immigrants can maintain their distinctive cultural identities and practices. This ideal of integration is compatible with a range of multiculturalism policies; indeed, policies that seek to accommodate the cultural practices of immigrants provide fairer terms of integration for immigrants. 

You are right that the question of how much integration is a fraught one. If immigrants hold beliefs and engage in practices that contravene liberal democratic norms, such as gender equality, then you're faced with a conflict between respecting cultural differences and upholding important norms. There is no general or easy answer to such conflicts; much will depend on context. I write more about such conflicts in my Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy essay on multiculturalism.

Thanks, Sarah! 

If you have a question or comment that did not get addressed during the show, feel free to leave a comment on the website or send us an email at comments@philosophytalk.org and we might just feature it here on the blog!

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Tim Smith

Monday, April 1, 2019 -- 9:18 PM

Here we go...Judy said.

Here we go...Judy said.

|Now, she said that something to the effect that immigrants deserve full participation in America, and that this entails the right to change the |culture. This is precisely where things become fraught. Again, what is "integration"? How much integration do we have a right to expect? What |kinds of changes become intolerable?

I don't think it's a matter of deserving full participation, integration or righteous expectations. Integration is being free without the right to harm others - especially vulnerable co-residents. If taxes are paid... I'm good with immigrants trying to change our culture. No one controls culture for long.

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meganf

Wednesday, April 3, 2019 -- 12:57 AM

Tim is making a good point.

Tim is making a good point. Culture is not a constant. Sometimes, people like to regard it as "consistent" by saying that society prefers certain "values," but even values are just social claims that serve a prescriptive forward-looking function or serve as means of characterizing retrospective judgments on past social behavior. I would argue that the social values of our country have changed throughout the years as public opinion has changed.
I had Sarah as a professor last fall for a class in which she touched briefly upon immigration and membership. I remember one point made was that if we apply an approach like John Rawls' "original position" to a broader global view that embodies immigration, the effect of immigration on a country's culture should not be a relevant moral consideration unless there's a real threat to liberal democratic values. I am not sure that there are any fundamental cultural aspects embedded in a sovereign state except for the fundamental social contract between its citizens and the state in the constitution. From this perspective, it would seem that integration is acceptable as long as the new immigrants abide by the conditions of the social contract.
Places of birth and the citizenship that it confers are arbitrary to the individual. A citizen's claim that they have any superior entitlement right to exclude immigrants seems relatively unfounded to me personally. It's also noteworthy to keep in mind that the United States had a relatively open immigration policy until the 1920s (with the exception of the Chinese Exclusion Act), which marked the emergence of the use of passports and the Immigration Act of 1924 that limited the inflow of immigrants.
Pressuring new immigrants to culturally assimilate evokes senses of cultural superiority, nearing senses of moral superiority that are relatively arbitrary. Cultural assimilation serves as erasure by communicating which cultures are more socially acceptable, whereas integration acknowledges each individual's right to autonomy without fallaciously pitting individual's (cultural) identities as "foreign" and against the state. Instead, a less xenophobic approach would be attempting to address these social conflicts from the context that these individuals are already part of the state. The argument that certain immigrants import "backwards" or morally depraved cultures is generalized and assumes that immigrants cannot or are not willing to abide by the terms of the social contract of a country which they are choosing to immigrate to, the act of which, by all means indicates that they demonstrate their acknowledgment of their intention to be just as legally bound to these rules as any other citizen in the country's jurisdiction. But, this point also brings up the question that if what we are really looking for is a community of not humans, who are fallible by nature and not by race, but a community of morally acceptable citizens, how is it that we choose not to deport natural born citizens who are just as much arbitrarily pre-dispositioned to be morally fallible? Our country unfairly endows additional rights and protections upon individuals born here than those who were not. I think this shows some of the conflicts we face when culture is seen as in conflict or inhibitive to civic participation.

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Harold G. Neuman

Monday, January 31, 2022 -- 5:51 AM

This is pretty far after-the

This is pretty far after-the-fact. I too was uncertain about the usage of integration. That term is charged from the get-go. Assimilation is a softer way of talking about people fitting in. Dr. Song's points are well-taken by myself (and probably others). But, her explanation, I am certain, missed the mark for sensitive folks who have seen negative outcome, no matter which term is applied. Whether we are talking about swords ( double-edged):; razors (thin and sharp): or brooms ( tending to miss important minutiae), things get missed, if not lost, in translation. Some people, otherwise fit and willing to do so, have no wish to either assimilate or integrate. They simply desire the freedoms for which a free society claims to stand; the opportunities unavailable elsewhere.

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wintercurrants

Thursday, November 23, 2023 -- 1:07 AM

The claim that some

The claim that some immigrants bring "backwards" or morally reprehensible cultures is overly broad and presupposes that immigrants are unable or unwilling to live up to the social compact of the nation they have chosen to immigrate to basket random. This is because their choice to immigrate by itself by no means indicates that they do not acknowledge that they will be subject to the same laws and regulations as any other citizen of the nation.

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sarausa

Tuesday, December 19, 2023 -- 5:24 PM

In my opinion, we should

In my opinion, we should harmonize mapquest directions and not assimilate because when we assimilate, it will be very difficult to preserve each nation's own culture.

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Monday, January 15, 2024 -- 4:11 AM

Engaging read on the

Engaging read on the intricate debate between integration and assimilation. The nuances of this topic are as complex and thought-provoking as an real iq test. It's fascinating to delve into the philosophical aspects of cultural identity and societal norms. Great piece that stimulates deep reflection!

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